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	<title>Comments on: Suterra Plotting To Buy 1500 Acres In Bend, Oregon</title>
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		<title>By: Edo</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/07/26/suterra-plotting-to-buy-1500-acres-in-bend-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-4262</link>
		<dc:creator>Edo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 06:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t affecting the Eco system of any natural environment a bad thing, despite it being a natural or synthetic product? 

You mention the disappearance of birds, who are vital to any natural habitat and growing of plants, yet everyone seems to want to immediately defend and only point, in reply to your original article, the effects they have had on humans, and have ignored the other problems this brand has created. 

In my humble opinion, Nature is it&#039;s own best pesticide. If these farms grew more variety, they wouldn&#039;t need these alternative ways of reducing the bug population.  

Btw. I got onto your article, as I was researching the hypocritical endeavours of the owner of Suterra, Lynda Resnick, who claims to be doing her bit for the environment and health research, despite being the owner of a bottled water company (Fiji Water), the Suterra pesticides company and POM Wonderful (plus a handful of other supposed ecological farms in CA).  She would be more beneficial to peoples health, and to the World environment if she stopped running her businesses altogether! 

Edo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t affecting the Eco system of any natural environment a bad thing, despite it being a natural or synthetic product? </p>
<p>You mention the disappearance of birds, who are vital to any natural habitat and growing of plants, yet everyone seems to want to immediately defend and only point, in reply to your original article, the effects they have had on humans, and have ignored the other problems this brand has created. </p>
<p>In my humble opinion, Nature is it&#8217;s own best pesticide. If these farms grew more variety, they wouldn&#8217;t need these alternative ways of reducing the bug population.  </p>
<p>Btw. I got onto your article, as I was researching the hypocritical endeavours of the owner of Suterra, Lynda Resnick, who claims to be doing her bit for the environment and health research, despite being the owner of a bottled water company (Fiji Water), the Suterra pesticides company and POM Wonderful (plus a handful of other supposed ecological farms in CA).  She would be more beneficial to peoples health, and to the World environment if she stopped running her businesses altogether! </p>
<p>Edo</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 18:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Barry, 
Thank you for coming to ask about this. The chief difference between the natural pheromone released by moths and the chemical being used in both traps and twist ties is that the latter is a man-made substance. While the makers and users of this substance have called it a &#039;pheromone&#039; and attempted to liken it to the natural substance released by moths, it is, in fact a lab chemical.

It&#039;s good that you are researching this, and before you make up your mind that this chemical is safe, please spend some time on this page:

http://dontspraycalifornia.org/lbam.html#IMPACTONHEALTH

Scroll down to the 2 images of a woman holding a plastic bag containing the twist ties and read about adverse health reactions people have experienced after coming into contact with these toxic twist ties. Further instances of adverse reactions have been reported in Yahoo! Groups but the discussion is one that requires a login. I believe these reports and you can discern whether you believe them or not after you read them.

Finally, it&#039;s important to point out that even the Material Safety Data sheet for the twist ties lists them as an irritant to the eyes and &#039;harmful if absorbed through skin&#039;. So, unlike the natural substance that has been produced by moths since moths first came into existence, the chemical on these ties is not natural and not safe. 

Good luck with your further research.
Mim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Barry,<br />
Thank you for coming to ask about this. The chief difference between the natural pheromone released by moths and the chemical being used in both traps and twist ties is that the latter is a man-made substance. While the makers and users of this substance have called it a &#8216;pheromone&#8217; and attempted to liken it to the natural substance released by moths, it is, in fact a lab chemical.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good that you are researching this, and before you make up your mind that this chemical is safe, please spend some time on this page:</p>
<p><a href="http://dontspraycalifornia.org/lbam.html#IMPACTONHEALTH" rel="nofollow">http://dontspraycalifornia.org/lbam.html#IMPACTONHEALTH</a></p>
<p>Scroll down to the 2 images of a woman holding a plastic bag containing the twist ties and read about adverse health reactions people have experienced after coming into contact with these toxic twist ties. Further instances of adverse reactions have been reported in Yahoo! Groups but the discussion is one that requires a login. I believe these reports and you can discern whether you believe them or not after you read them.</p>
<p>Finally, it&#8217;s important to point out that even the Material Safety Data sheet for the twist ties lists them as an irritant to the eyes and &#8216;harmful if absorbed through skin&#8217;. So, unlike the natural substance that has been produced by moths since moths first came into existence, the chemical on these ties is not natural and not safe. </p>
<p>Good luck with your further research.<br />
Mim</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/07/26/suterra-plotting-to-buy-1500-acres-in-bend-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-2501</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 07:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>California Department of Food and Agriculture, California EPA, as well as Federal EPA give the term &quot;pesticide&quot; to any non-biological agent used to control, mitigate, or lower the population density of a pest in an agricultural setting. 
So in other words, if you were to sell table salt as a method of controlling the common housefly by means of sprinkling salt over fly eggs to dry them out, it would have to be registered as a pesticide. Furthermore, the label on the pesticide salt container would have to say &quot;CAUTION&quot;, as that is the minimum signal word that can be used (There&#039;s Caution, Warning, and Danger), and every pesticide container must have a signal word. It would have to be classified as EPA Class I, II, III, or IV toxicity (class I being the most toxic). So the message to take away from this is, just because something is registered as a pesticide, means that it doesn&#039;t even have to be remotely toxic. So pheromones have to be registered as pesticides, even though they do not kill any pest.

Lures used in insect traps emit only the amount of pheromone that a single female insect of that species emits. If they emit any more, the males do not fly into those traps because the level of pheromone seems abnormal for them. They also can&#039;t have any foreign or intert smells coming from them because that would also not seem normal for male insects, and they would not fly into that trap. So essentially, a insect trap lure is an artificial female. So explain to me how you would get rash and skin irritations from a lure, and not get rash and skin irritations from sitting in your back yard at night, with moths flying around, all of which are emitting pheromones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California Department of Food and Agriculture, California EPA, as well as Federal EPA give the term &#8220;pesticide&#8221; to any non-biological agent used to control, mitigate, or lower the population density of a pest in an agricultural setting.<br />
So in other words, if you were to sell table salt as a method of controlling the common housefly by means of sprinkling salt over fly eggs to dry them out, it would have to be registered as a pesticide. Furthermore, the label on the pesticide salt container would have to say &#8220;CAUTION&#8221;, as that is the minimum signal word that can be used (There&#8217;s Caution, Warning, and Danger), and every pesticide container must have a signal word. It would have to be classified as EPA Class I, II, III, or IV toxicity (class I being the most toxic). So the message to take away from this is, just because something is registered as a pesticide, means that it doesn&#8217;t even have to be remotely toxic. So pheromones have to be registered as pesticides, even though they do not kill any pest.</p>
<p>Lures used in insect traps emit only the amount of pheromone that a single female insect of that species emits. If they emit any more, the males do not fly into those traps because the level of pheromone seems abnormal for them. They also can&#8217;t have any foreign or intert smells coming from them because that would also not seem normal for male insects, and they would not fly into that trap. So essentially, a insect trap lure is an artificial female. So explain to me how you would get rash and skin irritations from a lure, and not get rash and skin irritations from sitting in your back yard at night, with moths flying around, all of which are emitting pheromones.</p>
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		<title>By: Pro and Cons on relocating to Bend - Oregon (OR) - Page 2 - City-Data Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pro and Cons on relocating to Bend - Oregon (OR) - Page 2 - City-Data Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Wolf Willow,
You are quite right that compounds of chemicals tend to be more dangerous (have multiple different effects) than single chemicals. However, I have now talked to multiple people with compromised immune systems who have suffered severe effects from being exposed solely to the synthetic pheromones contained, supposedly singly, in monitoring traps. Migraines, mental confusion, ear, nose and throat irritation and menstrual irregularities have all been reported to me after people have come into close contact with the traps.

There have also been some very concerning European studies done of the effects of synthetic insect pheromones on animals in Africa. Rage and previously undocumented violent behavior were the effects documented in elephants. Like so many things, effects like these may go long unnoticed in the general population, and first show up in children, the elderly and the immuno-compromised. In my opinion, a just society protects these elements of their culture first...not last.

I appreciated you coming to share what you&#039;ve heard about synthetic pheromones and hope you will continue to research this. We will be doing the same.

Mim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Wolf Willow,<br />
You are quite right that compounds of chemicals tend to be more dangerous (have multiple different effects) than single chemicals. However, I have now talked to multiple people with compromised immune systems who have suffered severe effects from being exposed solely to the synthetic pheromones contained, supposedly singly, in monitoring traps. Migraines, mental confusion, ear, nose and throat irritation and menstrual irregularities have all been reported to me after people have come into close contact with the traps.</p>
<p>There have also been some very concerning European studies done of the effects of synthetic insect pheromones on animals in Africa. Rage and previously undocumented violent behavior were the effects documented in elephants. Like so many things, effects like these may go long unnoticed in the general population, and first show up in children, the elderly and the immuno-compromised. In my opinion, a just society protects these elements of their culture first&#8230;not last.</p>
<p>I appreciated you coming to share what you&#8217;ve heard about synthetic pheromones and hope you will continue to research this. We will be doing the same.</p>
<p>Mim</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf Willow</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/07/26/suterra-plotting-to-buy-1500-acres-in-bend-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-2409</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf Willow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not familiar with the specific Suterra product, but for the most part, pheromone products--reproductions of natural hormones--are pretty safe. They are not intended to directly kill insects, but instead confuse their behavior by redirecting them from mates or food. Sort of like trying to pick a particular voice out of a crowd if everyone was shouting your name.

When there are health problems associated, they&#039;re often from what the pheromones were mixed with for spraying. Pheromones are highly concentrated, and generally there&#039;s not much in a mix that&#039;s sprayed. They&#039;re &quot;pesticides&quot; because federal law defines anything that can prevent, destroy, repel, or mitigate any pest as a pesticide. Not every pesticide is a poison. Silver, the same silver as is in jewelry, is used in some countertops to reduce bacterial growth. When used for that purpose, silver is considered as a pesticide.

For example, the description of a watershed &quot;horrifically fouled with a yellow, foaming substance&quot; sounds like a description of a spray adjuvant--intended to help spread the material and get it to stick to foliage--rather than the pheromone itself.

For those of you who&#039;ve been researching the spraying in Monterey and Santa Cruz counties, did you find a list of everything in the mix that was sprayed? Look at the other ingredients and see what their health effects might be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with the specific Suterra product, but for the most part, pheromone products&#8211;reproductions of natural hormones&#8211;are pretty safe. They are not intended to directly kill insects, but instead confuse their behavior by redirecting them from mates or food. Sort of like trying to pick a particular voice out of a crowd if everyone was shouting your name.</p>
<p>When there are health problems associated, they&#8217;re often from what the pheromones were mixed with for spraying. Pheromones are highly concentrated, and generally there&#8217;s not much in a mix that&#8217;s sprayed. They&#8217;re &#8220;pesticides&#8221; because federal law defines anything that can prevent, destroy, repel, or mitigate any pest as a pesticide. Not every pesticide is a poison. Silver, the same silver as is in jewelry, is used in some countertops to reduce bacterial growth. When used for that purpose, silver is considered as a pesticide.</p>
<p>For example, the description of a watershed &#8220;horrifically fouled with a yellow, foaming substance&#8221; sounds like a description of a spray adjuvant&#8211;intended to help spread the material and get it to stick to foliage&#8211;rather than the pheromone itself.</p>
<p>For those of you who&#8217;ve been researching the spraying in Monterey and Santa Cruz counties, did you find a list of everything in the mix that was sprayed? Look at the other ingredients and see what their health effects might be.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to VeganReader, Chris.

Thank you for taking the time to share your views on this subject as well as your experience in working with synthetic pheromones.

The product created by Suterra and used in 2007 by the California Dept. of Food and Agriculture as part of the LBAM program is, in fact, a registered pesticide ... not an alternative to pesticide. One of its ingredients is a synthetic pheromone, combined with other so-called &#039;inert&#039; ingredients. Unfortunately, far from being non-toxic, Suterra&#039;s LBAM pesticide caused hundreds of families to fall seriously ill in California in 2007 and nearly killed 2 small children, as well as killing hundreds of sea birds, pets and honey bees. 

The simple and complex effects of synthetic pheromones on life-forms other than moths are simply not understood, and have never been researched. The spraying of Monterey and Santa Cruz counties in 2007 was an illegal human experiment and the results were prolonged illness and fatality amongst human and animal subjects.

Suterra markets their pheromones as &#039;alternatives&#039; to pesticides, when, in fact, Suterra is well aware of the fact that their products are legally registered pesticides.

I appreciate that you&#039;ve taken the time to share your own understanding of these substances, Chris, but it&#039;s very important to us that we respond with further information about these pesticides which are, in fact, incredibly dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to VeganReader, Chris.</p>
<p>Thank you for taking the time to share your views on this subject as well as your experience in working with synthetic pheromones.</p>
<p>The product created by Suterra and used in 2007 by the California Dept. of Food and Agriculture as part of the LBAM program is, in fact, a registered pesticide &#8230; not an alternative to pesticide. One of its ingredients is a synthetic pheromone, combined with other so-called &#8216;inert&#8217; ingredients. Unfortunately, far from being non-toxic, Suterra&#8217;s LBAM pesticide caused hundreds of families to fall seriously ill in California in 2007 and nearly killed 2 small children, as well as killing hundreds of sea birds, pets and honey bees. </p>
<p>The simple and complex effects of synthetic pheromones on life-forms other than moths are simply not understood, and have never been researched. The spraying of Monterey and Santa Cruz counties in 2007 was an illegal human experiment and the results were prolonged illness and fatality amongst human and animal subjects.</p>
<p>Suterra markets their pheromones as &#8216;alternatives&#8217; to pesticides, when, in fact, Suterra is well aware of the fact that their products are legally registered pesticides.</p>
<p>I appreciate that you&#8217;ve taken the time to share your own understanding of these substances, Chris, but it&#8217;s very important to us that we respond with further information about these pesticides which are, in fact, incredibly dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am surprised by the reaction that the folks here have to the pheromone used by Suterra.

The compound that was used has a physical characteristic similar to wax. I have personally spent quite a bit of time around pheromones used by Suterra. In fact I have purified and synthesized some of these compounds. I can say that pheromones in general are not particularly hazardous. Some even have a generally pleasant odor. These compounds confuse the insects and make it hard to find a mate. Perhaps the best analogy would be perfume for insects. Because it confuses the insects by preventing them from finding mates it is considered to be an insecticide. The effect of Suterra&#039;s pheromone is highly specific for the insect of interest (there are a wide diversity in insect pheromones) unlike a toxic agent which will kill all insects. 

Consider that the pheromones used by Suterra are chemically identical to the compounds excreted by the insect. Certainly there is a lot more of these compounds released into the environment however the chemical involved here is not toxic as judged by extensive experimentation. The synthetic compound is characterized for purity (Usually 98+% pure), and any impurities must also be characterized as not toxic.

The compound used by suterra to control LBAM is a much better alternatives to toxic insecticides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am surprised by the reaction that the folks here have to the pheromone used by Suterra.</p>
<p>The compound that was used has a physical characteristic similar to wax. I have personally spent quite a bit of time around pheromones used by Suterra. In fact I have purified and synthesized some of these compounds. I can say that pheromones in general are not particularly hazardous. Some even have a generally pleasant odor. These compounds confuse the insects and make it hard to find a mate. Perhaps the best analogy would be perfume for insects. Because it confuses the insects by preventing them from finding mates it is considered to be an insecticide. The effect of Suterra&#8217;s pheromone is highly specific for the insect of interest (there are a wide diversity in insect pheromones) unlike a toxic agent which will kill all insects. </p>
<p>Consider that the pheromones used by Suterra are chemically identical to the compounds excreted by the insect. Certainly there is a lot more of these compounds released into the environment however the chemical involved here is not toxic as judged by extensive experimentation. The synthetic compound is characterized for purity (Usually 98+% pure), and any impurities must also be characterized as not toxic.</p>
<p>The compound used by suterra to control LBAM is a much better alternatives to toxic insecticides.</p>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Brittany,
I suggest you take a look at the long list of articles to the left side of this page. You will find an overwhelming number of articles which I have written and further sources which I have linked to regarding the very real health damages done by the spraying of Suterra&#039;s pheromone pesticide on the families of Central California in 2007. Please, do educate yourself about this. Your uninformed comments, above, may be very hurtful to my readers, many of whom were made ill by the spraying. Likely, you are not intending to be hurtful and are simply not aware of the facts of this situation, nor this blog&#039;s ongoing efforts to document the tragic damages done to the people of Santa Cruz and Monterrey and their environment.

I suggest you also further research Suterra&#039;s products which are classified by the EPA as pesticides, and unlike the natural product created by insects as a biological process, are, in fact, laboratory chemicals with the ability to devastate animal and insect health.

I am very, very concerned that you have been led to believe that Suterra is a hero in the organics field. As an organic farmer, I can assure you that they are not seen that way by people in the organics community. Rather, they are on par with feared and despised corporations such as Monsanto, and are not worthy of praise in the field of organics.

I sincerely urge you to continue your own research regarding Suterra and their products, particularly if your live in or near Bend, Oregon. Your health is at stake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Brittany,<br />
I suggest you take a look at the long list of articles to the left side of this page. You will find an overwhelming number of articles which I have written and further sources which I have linked to regarding the very real health damages done by the spraying of Suterra&#8217;s pheromone pesticide on the families of Central California in 2007. Please, do educate yourself about this. Your uninformed comments, above, may be very hurtful to my readers, many of whom were made ill by the spraying. Likely, you are not intending to be hurtful and are simply not aware of the facts of this situation, nor this blog&#8217;s ongoing efforts to document the tragic damages done to the people of Santa Cruz and Monterrey and their environment.</p>
<p>I suggest you also further research Suterra&#8217;s products which are classified by the EPA as pesticides, and unlike the natural product created by insects as a biological process, are, in fact, laboratory chemicals with the ability to devastate animal and insect health.</p>
<p>I am very, very concerned that you have been led to believe that Suterra is a hero in the organics field. As an organic farmer, I can assure you that they are not seen that way by people in the organics community. Rather, they are on par with feared and despised corporations such as Monsanto, and are not worthy of praise in the field of organics.</p>
<p>I sincerely urge you to continue your own research regarding Suterra and their products, particularly if your live in or near Bend, Oregon. Your health is at stake.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittany</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kind of funny how everyone is so convinced that because some fish died and a kid got a cough that it is automatically the fault of the company who, to this day, has not had any illnesses from their own pheromone production.  Pheromones are only a hormone that the moth excretes when it is ready to mate, not a deadly killing substance.

If anything the city of Bend should be applauding Suterra&#039;s efforts to help create more healthy and organic crops, instead of having to eat an apple stuffed with pesticides.  Perhaps there should be more ACTUAL facts, with real textual back-ups on your ideas of what the people of California claimed to experience after the spraying of the pheromones,  before you make any assumptions of anything you have never personally witnessed yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of funny how everyone is so convinced that because some fish died and a kid got a cough that it is automatically the fault of the company who, to this day, has not had any illnesses from their own pheromone production.  Pheromones are only a hormone that the moth excretes when it is ready to mate, not a deadly killing substance.</p>
<p>If anything the city of Bend should be applauding Suterra&#8217;s efforts to help create more healthy and organic crops, instead of having to eat an apple stuffed with pesticides.  Perhaps there should be more ACTUAL facts, with real textual back-ups on your ideas of what the people of California claimed to experience after the spraying of the pheromones,  before you make any assumptions of anything you have never personally witnessed yourself.</p>
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