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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s Going On In Sonoma</title>
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		<title>By: Mary Anne Gaskins</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/06/03/whats-going-on-in-sonoma/#comment-872</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Anne Gaskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Donna.  No our dream of moving back now looks impossible.  I don't think we could take the chance.  Yes we do feel more comfortable in Boulder.  It was so nice of you to comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Donna.  No our dream of moving back now looks impossible.  I don&#8217;t think we could take the chance.  Yes we do feel more comfortable in Boulder.  It was so nice of you to comment.</p>
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		<title>By: donna kuhn</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna kuhn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mary ann,

i am sorry to hear about your husband too. i assume you are not planning to move back here now. boulder is more like santa cruz than denver is, i've lived in boulder and fort collins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mary ann,</p>
<p>i am sorry to hear about your husband too. i assume you are not planning to move back here now. boulder is more like santa cruz than denver is, i&#8217;ve lived in boulder and fort collins.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Anne Gaskins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Anne Gaskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much, Mim, for your caring remarks.  It means a great deal.  First the heartbreak over what they are trying to do to California and now my husband is ill. It has been overwhelming to say the least.  You see, we don't live in California right now.  We live in Denver. It was our fondest wish to move back to California as soon as we possibly could. Our son was born in Sacramento and we later lived in Santa Cruz which we loved.  So much of our world in the last year or so has changed but fighting this horrible pesticide threat at least makes us feel we are helping the people and land we love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much, Mim, for your caring remarks.  It means a great deal.  First the heartbreak over what they are trying to do to California and now my husband is ill. It has been overwhelming to say the least.  You see, we don&#8217;t live in California right now.  We live in Denver. It was our fondest wish to move back to California as soon as we possibly could. Our son was born in Sacramento and we later lived in Santa Cruz which we loved.  So much of our world in the last year or so has changed but fighting this horrible pesticide threat at least makes us feel we are helping the people and land we love.</p>
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		<title>By: donna kuhn</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna kuhn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i didn't realize u grew up there, mim. i don't know how i lived there for years and didn't know but it is where my cfids and allergies started. at one point i was sure i wanted to spend the rest of my life in sonoma county and now after a recent visit and seeing how the wineries expanded i am afraid to even visit. how sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i didn&#8217;t realize u grew up there, mim. i don&#8217;t know how i lived there for years and didn&#8217;t know but it is where my cfids and allergies started. at one point i was sure i wanted to spend the rest of my life in sonoma county and now after a recent visit and seeing how the wineries expanded i am afraid to even visit. how sad.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mary Anne,
First, let me say that I am incredibly sorry to hear about your husband. I am sending good thoughts to your family right this minute. I am just so sorry about this. 

And, now I appreciate even more the time you are spending commenting here. Your life must be feeling very crazy right now with this illness in your family. Please know that I am thinking of you.

Your comment really touched me. Your childhood memory...it's so vivid. The beauty we see as children...it's how I would like the world to be. If people could just appreciate our planet as it is, bugs, weeds and all, we'd be living in something as close to paradise as we could imagine, I think. But this obsessive need to control everything, to see ourselves as masters of the universe rather than humble guests is truly coming back to get us.

I whole-heartedly agree with you, Mary Anne, that as horrible as the LBAM spraying is, it is also a time of opportunity for all people who are just starting to realize what toxins are doing to us. We can change our world. I believe this.

Keep fighting and, please, take care, Mary Anne!
Mim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mary Anne,<br />
First, let me say that I am incredibly sorry to hear about your husband. I am sending good thoughts to your family right this minute. I am just so sorry about this. </p>
<p>And, now I appreciate even more the time you are spending commenting here. Your life must be feeling very crazy right now with this illness in your family. Please know that I am thinking of you.</p>
<p>Your comment really touched me. Your childhood memory&#8230;it&#8217;s so vivid. The beauty we see as children&#8230;it&#8217;s how I would like the world to be. If people could just appreciate our planet as it is, bugs, weeds and all, we&#8217;d be living in something as close to paradise as we could imagine, I think. But this obsessive need to control everything, to see ourselves as masters of the universe rather than humble guests is truly coming back to get us.</p>
<p>I whole-heartedly agree with you, Mary Anne, that as horrible as the LBAM spraying is, it is also a time of opportunity for all people who are just starting to realize what toxins are doing to us. We can change our world. I believe this.</p>
<p>Keep fighting and, please, take care, Mary Anne!<br />
Mim</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Maxina, you are the voice of experience in this and that is exactly why DontSprayCalifornia.com is such a priceless resource for all of us. I so appreciate you sharing what you have learned, at such a high cost to your family, with all of us. That's a wretched story about the worker housing. Just last month, some grower got contacted about migrant workers (men, women and children) living in his field. And, the poor folks were upset about being evicted from the field because they had no place else to live. Just a terrible situation.

Thank you for taking the time to comment, Maxina. I really appreciate it.
Mim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Maxina, you are the voice of experience in this and that is exactly why DontSprayCalifornia.com is such a priceless resource for all of us. I so appreciate you sharing what you have learned, at such a high cost to your family, with all of us. That&#8217;s a wretched story about the worker housing. Just last month, some grower got contacted about migrant workers (men, women and children) living in his field. And, the poor folks were upset about being evicted from the field because they had no place else to live. Just a terrible situation.</p>
<p>Thank you for taking the time to comment, Maxina. I really appreciate it.<br />
Mim</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Anne Gaskins</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/06/03/whats-going-on-in-sonoma/#comment-814</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Anne Gaskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mim, you have dealt with so many very difficult subjects. We all need to think about this and act on it.  The pictures Maxina referred us to - this is the picture of evil, of terrible greed and exploitation. 
I saw California, for the first time, when I was five years old in 1950.  I remember its beauty and abundance.  The orange groves and olives groves - the wonderful tastes and scents - the palm trees and the brilliant blue sky were exotic and amazing to a small child from Ohio. 
I often wonder now how much destruction the human race can observe before it wakes up and takes action. Whether or not (and I certainly hope not) the Bay area is sprayed, this opportunity is presenting itself and we must seize the moment. I find myself very tired of the fight lately as my formerly healthy and energetic husband has been diagnosed and is in treatment for Multiple Myeloma - another result of our environment.
In spite of being called names for our efforts and in spite of the apathy that is sometimes overwhelming, it is a cause that is so worthy and so necessary. 
Bless you, bpm and Maxina and all the others who have the grace and perseverance to be engaged in this effort.
Mary Anne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mim, you have dealt with so many very difficult subjects. We all need to think about this and act on it.  The pictures Maxina referred us to - this is the picture of evil, of terrible greed and exploitation.<br />
I saw California, for the first time, when I was five years old in 1950.  I remember its beauty and abundance.  The orange groves and olives groves - the wonderful tastes and scents - the palm trees and the brilliant blue sky were exotic and amazing to a small child from Ohio.<br />
I often wonder now how much destruction the human race can observe before it wakes up and takes action. Whether or not (and I certainly hope not) the Bay area is sprayed, this opportunity is presenting itself and we must seize the moment. I find myself very tired of the fight lately as my formerly healthy and energetic husband has been diagnosed and is in treatment for Multiple Myeloma - another result of our environment.<br />
In spite of being called names for our efforts and in spite of the apathy that is sometimes overwhelming, it is a cause that is so worthy and so necessary.<br />
Bless you, bpm and Maxina and all the others who have the grace and perseverance to be engaged in this effort.<br />
Mary Anne</p>
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		<title>By: Maxina Ventura</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/06/03/whats-going-on-in-sonoma/#comment-810</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxina Ventura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much, Mim, for your heartbreaking portrait of the day-to-day life you and others have been living, which my kids and I lived for so many years in the middle of one of Sonoma's many cancer and low-thyroid clusters, in the Carneros, in Schellville. 

I would invite people to go to the website of the group which grew out of Sonoma Pesticide Alert, East Bay Pesticide Alert. Our site is www.dontspraycalifornia.org. You can click on the cropduster icon to see photos of pesticide drift, everyday life in Sonoma and Napa. That cropdusting icon was a photo I took of one of Nelson Harding's cropdusting planes being used right across from Fish and Game land in the Carneros, right by the sloughs leading to the San Pablo Bay. 

Yes, a toxic wasteland. Dr. Doris Rapp refers to our bodies as becoming toxic waste dumps because of pesticides and other chemicals being thrown at us. So very, very true. 

I am so appreciative of your always remembering the people who work in the fields, the people with few choices, and their kids and other family members, the usually-forgotten populations.

A decade ago, when some activists were trying to get a zoning permit to build out an existing building in Boyes Hot Springs or Agua Caliente, back when for awhile I lived right nearby in Agua Caliente, to create simple living space for farmworkers, all these Sonoma people benefiting financially by these people's work fought it saying that property values would come down, or that there would be violence (well, yes, organophosphate and carbamate pesticides used in Wine Country and nearby Apple lands are associated with violence, but we know that these people were not referring to this association, but more general race and class associations they have created in their minds). 

The end result was that people continued to live under bridges by Sonoma Creek, and by edges of fields, getting no reprieve from saturation with pesticides. Meanwhile, people at the local health clinic, when we were doing health surveying, said that it was impossible to track these workers who had essentially no healthcare. They were in and out of Mexico and Central America and if sickened probably would not make it back to California, or if sickened in California might go back to be with family in their home countries. Regardless, nary a doctor in a Sonoma, Santa Rosa, Napa or Vallejo recognizes the most typical pesticide poisoning signs, though 911 operators do.

One wonders how the perpetrators of the alcohol industry sleep at night. I guess those glasses of wine put them to sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much, Mim, for your heartbreaking portrait of the day-to-day life you and others have been living, which my kids and I lived for so many years in the middle of one of Sonoma&#8217;s many cancer and low-thyroid clusters, in the Carneros, in Schellville. </p>
<p>I would invite people to go to the website of the group which grew out of Sonoma Pesticide Alert, East Bay Pesticide Alert. Our site is <a href="http://www.dontspraycalifornia.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.dontspraycalifornia.org</a>. You can click on the cropduster icon to see photos of pesticide drift, everyday life in Sonoma and Napa. That cropdusting icon was a photo I took of one of Nelson Harding&#8217;s cropdusting planes being used right across from Fish and Game land in the Carneros, right by the sloughs leading to the San Pablo Bay. </p>
<p>Yes, a toxic wasteland. Dr. Doris Rapp refers to our bodies as becoming toxic waste dumps because of pesticides and other chemicals being thrown at us. So very, very true. </p>
<p>I am so appreciative of your always remembering the people who work in the fields, the people with few choices, and their kids and other family members, the usually-forgotten populations.</p>
<p>A decade ago, when some activists were trying to get a zoning permit to build out an existing building in Boyes Hot Springs or Agua Caliente, back when for awhile I lived right nearby in Agua Caliente, to create simple living space for farmworkers, all these Sonoma people benefiting financially by these people&#8217;s work fought it saying that property values would come down, or that there would be violence (well, yes, organophosphate and carbamate pesticides used in Wine Country and nearby Apple lands are associated with violence, but we know that these people were not referring to this association, but more general race and class associations they have created in their minds). </p>
<p>The end result was that people continued to live under bridges by Sonoma Creek, and by edges of fields, getting no reprieve from saturation with pesticides. Meanwhile, people at the local health clinic, when we were doing health surveying, said that it was impossible to track these workers who had essentially no healthcare. They were in and out of Mexico and Central America and if sickened probably would not make it back to California, or if sickened in California might go back to be with family in their home countries. Regardless, nary a doctor in a Sonoma, Santa Rosa, Napa or Vallejo recognizes the most typical pesticide poisoning signs, though 911 operators do.</p>
<p>One wonders how the perpetrators of the alcohol industry sleep at night. I guess those glasses of wine put them to sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi BPM -
You are so right, on all counts.

If Sonoma County were somehow cut off from the rest of the world, there would be starvation. Nearly all usable land here is being used to produce liquor...not food for humans. It's an absurd situation. 

And, very, very sad for a girl who remembers the big open fields and apple orchards of childhood. They are all gone.

Mim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi BPM -<br />
You are so right, on all counts.</p>
<p>If Sonoma County were somehow cut off from the rest of the world, there would be starvation. Nearly all usable land here is being used to produce liquor&#8230;not food for humans. It&#8217;s an absurd situation. </p>
<p>And, very, very sad for a girl who remembers the big open fields and apple orchards of childhood. They are all gone.</p>
<p>Mim</p>
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		<title>By: bpm</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years ago, Sonoma County was primarily farmland and now it is primarily agricultural vineyards.  How the land is zoned in each community and county allowed this to happen.  

To my knowledge, there are no laws requiring anyone who uses chemicals on their property to notify surrounding businesses and residents of when, where, and how the chemicals will be used.  As more homes, schools, and businesses are built in areas adjacent or close to agriculture, it becomes more important to have a variety of laws written in order to protect the safety of people in these situations.  

As we open our eyes more about the LBAM spray crisis, more of us are becoming aware of the problems associated with chemicals that are polluting us and our planet.  

Environmental problems are and will be the most pressing issues for the future of life on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago, Sonoma County was primarily farmland and now it is primarily agricultural vineyards.  How the land is zoned in each community and county allowed this to happen.  </p>
<p>To my knowledge, there are no laws requiring anyone who uses chemicals on their property to notify surrounding businesses and residents of when, where, and how the chemicals will be used.  As more homes, schools, and businesses are built in areas adjacent or close to agriculture, it becomes more important to have a variety of laws written in order to protect the safety of people in these situations.  </p>
<p>As we open our eyes more about the LBAM spray crisis, more of us are becoming aware of the problems associated with chemicals that are polluting us and our planet.  </p>
<p>Environmental problems are and will be the most pressing issues for the future of life on this planet.</p>
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