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	<title>Comments on: Moving Because of LBAM Spray - California&#8217;s Refugee Problem</title>
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		<title>By: peaceseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/04/06/moving-because-of-lbam-spray-californias-refugee-problem/#comment-654</link>
		<dc:creator>peaceseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 05:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Good People,  

I have lived in the bay area and marin for 23 years. We are planning to move because of the spray. Am not sure how pesticide drift works, but beginning during the Santa Cruz spray, myself and my partner both had severe coughs that lasted for months. My partner hasn't had a cough in years. I still have a cough that won't go away, that has yellow phelgm and I'm a health conscious vegan. We don't have enough money to move, but will take out a loan to move if the spray is going to occur - against the will of the people of California. 

I will miss the grand redwood trees, the deer, squirrels, birds, ducks, bees, foxes and even the bobcat and coyote that occasionally pass through my yard. They have become my friends, and each critter has a name. It is a sad day when nature and humanity is so brutally attacked by the very people that are supposed to "protect" us, all for a manmade printed dollar bill, and an oh so interesting grand experiment. 

We are currently seeking high and low, every state on the map of where to go that has clean air, organic food, and kindhearted, open minded people. Also trying to figure out what state will be safe from the aerial pesticiding of humans - this isn't about a moth. Can't afford to move out of the country, then again if you do some research, you'll see that this is happening around the globe. 

To those who so desperately want to spray the good people of California, please come to each city during the actual spraying, stand outside on the street and welcome the planes with open arms and an open mouth as they spray you - then we might have something to cheer about, you know, it's "harmless".

Let's work to stop this insanity, pray it doesn't happen, and stay strong. Peace and Love to All</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Good People,  </p>
<p>I have lived in the bay area and marin for 23 years. We are planning to move because of the spray. Am not sure how pesticide drift works, but beginning during the Santa Cruz spray, myself and my partner both had severe coughs that lasted for months. My partner hasn&#8217;t had a cough in years. I still have a cough that won&#8217;t go away, that has yellow phelgm and I&#8217;m a health conscious vegan. We don&#8217;t have enough money to move, but will take out a loan to move if the spray is going to occur - against the will of the people of California. </p>
<p>I will miss the grand redwood trees, the deer, squirrels, birds, ducks, bees, foxes and even the bobcat and coyote that occasionally pass through my yard. They have become my friends, and each critter has a name. It is a sad day when nature and humanity is so brutally attacked by the very people that are supposed to &#8220;protect&#8221; us, all for a manmade printed dollar bill, and an oh so interesting grand experiment. </p>
<p>We are currently seeking high and low, every state on the map of where to go that has clean air, organic food, and kindhearted, open minded people. Also trying to figure out what state will be safe from the aerial pesticiding of humans - this isn&#8217;t about a moth. Can&#8217;t afford to move out of the country, then again if you do some research, you&#8217;ll see that this is happening around the globe. </p>
<p>To those who so desperately want to spray the good people of California, please come to each city during the actual spraying, stand outside on the street and welcome the planes with open arms and an open mouth as they spray you - then we might have something to cheer about, you know, it&#8217;s &#8220;harmless&#8221;.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s work to stop this insanity, pray it doesn&#8217;t happen, and stay strong. Peace and Love to All</p>
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		<title>By: Daria Schwarzschild</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/04/06/moving-because-of-lbam-spray-californias-refugee-problem/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Daria Schwarzschild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born and raised in San Francisco and now am a homeowner in Oakland-46 years total. The Bay Area has always been my home and I've been grateful to live here with our precious regional, state and national parklands as well as our diverse communites.
If the LBAM or any other aerial spray program starts, I will be moving out of the area, probably out of state. I will be very disheartened to see our beautiful state (and other states to follow) be turned into a toxic wasteland by the decisions of a few greedy, dispicable and down-right evil people. 
Here's a quote I received today for all of us to follow: Activist/Scholar Rosa Clemente's Marching Orders For People who are Frustrated With The System:
Never feel demoralized. 
Inform yourself. 
DON'T create another organization; JOIN one of the many good ones in existence. 
Get involved / get organized. 
Come up with a critical mass of people who do what they are really strong at. 
What is your disaster plan, i.e.who can you depend on when things get really bad? Hopefully yourself!  
PEACE TO ALL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born and raised in San Francisco and now am a homeowner in Oakland-46 years total. The Bay Area has always been my home and I&#8217;ve been grateful to live here with our precious regional, state and national parklands as well as our diverse communites.<br />
If the LBAM or any other aerial spray program starts, I will be moving out of the area, probably out of state. I will be very disheartened to see our beautiful state (and other states to follow) be turned into a toxic wasteland by the decisions of a few greedy, dispicable and down-right evil people.<br />
Here&#8217;s a quote I received today for all of us to follow: Activist/Scholar Rosa Clemente&#8217;s Marching Orders For People who are Frustrated With The System:<br />
Never feel demoralized.<br />
Inform yourself.<br />
DON&#8217;T create another organization; JOIN one of the many good ones in existence.<br />
Get involved / get organized.<br />
Come up with a critical mass of people who do what they are really strong at.<br />
What is your disaster plan, i.e.who can you depend on when things get really bad? Hopefully yourself!<br />
PEACE TO ALL.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/04/06/moving-because-of-lbam-spray-californias-refugee-problem/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted by Vegan Reader from the Petition Site:

 Mikel Russell , California
If this goes ahead, I and several of my friends and family members will be moving out of California, permanently. This is an outrageous attack on the citizens of California.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by Vegan Reader from the Petition Site:</p>
<p> Mikel Russell , California<br />
If this goes ahead, I and several of my friends and family members will be moving out of California, permanently. This is an outrageous attack on the citizens of California.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/04/06/moving-because-of-lbam-spray-californias-refugee-problem/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted by Vegan Reader from the Petition Site:

Melissa Handley , California
I am shocked by the plan to spray the public, thier children and animals without any consent! This is an outrage. I am moving to the bay area for work and am now considering against it. More and more people are eating foods without poisons and staying away from them for a reason! This is a basic human right and it is being violated. I am seriously considering not buying any real estate because of this issue. It is disturbing and sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by Vegan Reader from the Petition Site:</p>
<p>Melissa Handley , California<br />
I am shocked by the plan to spray the public, thier children and animals without any consent! This is an outrage. I am moving to the bay area for work and am now considering against it. More and more people are eating foods without poisons and staying away from them for a reason! This is a basic human right and it is being violated. I am seriously considering not buying any real estate because of this issue. It is disturbing and sad.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/04/06/moving-because-of-lbam-spray-californias-refugee-problem/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted by Vegan Reader from Bay Area Craigslist:

Landlords: You Are About to Lose Your Renters (sausalito)
I personally know of several renters about to break their leases and leave the area due to the imminent aerial pesticide spraying that is about to begin in Southern Marin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by Vegan Reader from Bay Area Craigslist:</p>
<p>Landlords: You Are About to Lose Your Renters (sausalito)<br />
I personally know of several renters about to break their leases and leave the area due to the imminent aerial pesticide spraying that is about to begin in Southern Marin.</p>
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		<title>By: Joyce</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/04/06/moving-because-of-lbam-spray-californias-refugee-problem/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of the Canaries in the coal mine. If you hear me singing you better listen. I am healing from Lyme and co-infections along with MCS,EI and mercury toxic. For many years I was dxed with Chronic Fatigue Symdrome,Fibromylgia,MCS and EI. 31/2 yrs ago finally dxed with Lyme and co-infections. The treatment for Lyme and co-infections is hell, especially with chronic lyme and co-infections. Its been a nightmare for me being treated. I am doing all alternative protocals. I was finally feeling like I was going to be well and very hopeful and then we were sprayed in Santa Cruz. It has knocked me way back. Very disappointing. I have had symptions that I never had with my lyme hell. A lot more than they are saying in the papers. This is not allergy,cold or flu. One of the symptions I s spotting,pms and cramping. I am post menopausal. Its been 15 yrs since I have had a period. I have just been starting to feel a bit better. I am not usually not in fear but I am of being sprayed again. I already lost my home in Fremont do to becoming disabled and then moved to SC to heal. I will have to leave if they spray in June,but to who knows where.I am low income so that makes it all the harder. I know many are in my situation.Like I have said many times, I feel like I am in the twlight zone or in a bad nightmare that I am unable to wake up from. Very scary. I am working hard to stay in balance in mind,body,spirit emotions,while doing my small part to stop this insanity.Blessings to stopping the spray.       Namaste' Joyce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of the Canaries in the coal mine. If you hear me singing you better listen. I am healing from Lyme and co-infections along with MCS,EI and mercury toxic. For many years I was dxed with Chronic Fatigue Symdrome,Fibromylgia,MCS and EI. 31/2 yrs ago finally dxed with Lyme and co-infections. The treatment for Lyme and co-infections is hell, especially with chronic lyme and co-infections. Its been a nightmare for me being treated. I am doing all alternative protocals. I was finally feeling like I was going to be well and very hopeful and then we were sprayed in Santa Cruz. It has knocked me way back. Very disappointing. I have had symptions that I never had with my lyme hell. A lot more than they are saying in the papers. This is not allergy,cold or flu. One of the symptions I s spotting,pms and cramping. I am post menopausal. Its been 15 yrs since I have had a period. I have just been starting to feel a bit better. I am not usually not in fear but I am of being sprayed again. I already lost my home in Fremont do to becoming disabled and then moved to SC to heal. I will have to leave if they spray in June,but to who knows where.I am low income so that makes it all the harder. I know many are in my situation.Like I have said many times, I feel like I am in the twlight zone or in a bad nightmare that I am unable to wake up from. Very scary. I am working hard to stay in balance in mind,body,spirit emotions,while doing my small part to stop this insanity.Blessings to stopping the spray.       Namaste&#8217; Joyce</p>
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		<title>By: Joyce</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/04/06/moving-because-of-lbam-spray-californias-refugee-problem/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Testing</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/04/06/moving-because-of-lbam-spray-californias-refugee-problem/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Added By Vegan Reader from Indy Bay News:

I haven't yet exerienced the LBAM spray, but from the stories I've heard I am positive I will be a candidate for moving if spraying happens as promosed in the East Bay. Breathing traffic fumes, fumes from tumbledryers (dryer sheets), perfume, cigarettes - you name the toxin - it affects my health. I'm often down for 24 hours with a nasty nauseous headache and inability to focus.

I am not going to risk the possibility of longer exposure as indicated in the LBAM program. Whether they spray every month or every three months, the stuff is going to be in the air, and, since it is made up of synthetic chemicals some of which are known to be harmful to humans, I know I'd be down.
I think of myself as a canary in the coal mine - one of the first to be affected.
Catherine S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Added By Vegan Reader from Indy Bay News:</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t yet exerienced the LBAM spray, but from the stories I&#8217;ve heard I am positive I will be a candidate for moving if spraying happens as promosed in the East Bay. Breathing traffic fumes, fumes from tumbledryers (dryer sheets), perfume, cigarettes - you name the toxin - it affects my health. I&#8217;m often down for 24 hours with a nasty nauseous headache and inability to focus.</p>
<p>I am not going to risk the possibility of longer exposure as indicated in the LBAM program. Whether they spray every month or every three months, the stuff is going to be in the air, and, since it is made up of synthetic chemicals some of which are known to be harmful to humans, I know I&#8217;d be down.<br />
I think of myself as a canary in the coal mine - one of the first to be affected.<br />
Catherine S</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/04/06/moving-because-of-lbam-spray-californias-refugee-problem/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Oakland and have chemical sensitivity.  I am planning to leave before August 1 if spraying moves forward as planned.  I am fortunate because my retired parents live in Calaveras County and I can stay with them.  However, I must leave my home, husband,extened family and friends, work.....and when can I safely return?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Oakland and have chemical sensitivity.  I am planning to leave before August 1 if spraying moves forward as planned.  I am fortunate because my retired parents live in Calaveras County and I can stay with them.  However, I must leave my home, husband,extened family and friends, work&#8230;..and when can I safely return?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.veganreader.com/2008/04/06/moving-because-of-lbam-spray-californias-refugee-problem/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Dorothy.
Here is a direct link to the forum post Dorothy is mentioning, with additional people documenting their LBAM refugee experiences:

http://forum.stopthespray.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&#038;t=412</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Dorothy.<br />
Here is a direct link to the forum post Dorothy is mentioning, with additional people documenting their LBAM refugee experiences:</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.stopthespray.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&#038;t=412" rel="nofollow">http://forum.stopthespray.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&#038;t=412</a></p>
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